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GamePark : 1.Chris 2. Alive 3. Ruso
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kkab is not actually 1v1 player, he is only playing TyRanT TGs or tournament.
When I kindly explain that the 2001 game between Koven and Halen that they are watching is a messy piece of **** compared to modern games, it's like talking to a brick wall.
When I kindly explain that Koven just came back to voobly and got tore a new asshole by a 17+, they can't bring themselves to understand...
When I tell them that Viper and Jordan are light years ahead of anything Koven has ever achieved in an AoC game, well..
The hushed revered tones in 2000 of a mysterious player above all others. At the end of the day, players need someone to worship and Koven became that myth. The truth is that unfortunately he doesn't even belong on this list.
If anyone doubts this, they need to produce a record of Koven playing amazingly. If they fail to do this, they must stfu and realise they are nothing but nostalgic fanboys.
Edit: But only for the reasons you stated
viper is new gen and probably if he kees his pace, will get there.
When I kindly explain that the 2001 game between Koven and Halen that they are watching is a messy piece of **** compared to modern games, it's like talking to a brick wall.
When I kindly explain that Koven just came back to voobly and got tore a new asshole by a 17+, they can't bring themselves to understand...
When I tell them that Viper and Jordan are light years ahead of anything Koven has ever achieved in an AoC game, well..
The hushed revered tones in 2000 of a mysterious player above all others. At the end of the day, players need someone to worship and Koven became that myth. The truth is that unfortunately he doesn't even belong on this list.
If anyone doubts this, they need to produce a record of Koven playing amazingly. If they fail to do this, they must stfu and realise they are nothing but nostalgic fanboys.
Ask kkab, chris, Halen (to name 3 that actually played against him before he left the game) if koven deserves to be on this list.
I agree the way to determine the current best is based on current matchups. However, I respectfully disagree that direct matches are the only way to determine the "best of all time" (which will never be answered conclusively). Specifically, people commenting that Koven doesn't hold a candle to the current generation. We know that doesn't work in the sports world, because people get old, but the same holds for the video game world. I think mental sharpness decreases even between ages of 20 and 30 and 30 to 40, etc.
As others have mentioned, optimal strategies are refined, and even if Koven came back and was as mentally sharp as ever, he could be at a point in his life where he can't devote time to practicing and perfecting his game. If one is a dominating force 1v1 for several years, even if they are no longer elite, they can be respected for the domination they once exhibited. But it sure is a fun debate. I have watched many of these games and am in awe of the skill and don't even feel qualified to directly vote. I only feel dominating your generation is a point of worthy consideration.